Lets put this on the table, so to speak

[jaw4]

Says the person whom barely knows me aside from reading my occasional post. Also I generally don't speak to ctf'ers.

I'm 100x better at siege than you could ever hope to be, hope that qualifies me as a sieger.

[Caesar]

Lol I have never seen you in game, therefore you point voids.

[Magyk]

Guard is going to show up and make a diplomatic post like he always does, where he doesn't acknowledge either side as being correct so as to not step on anyone's toes.

[Caesar]

Ok well lets here it from an onslaught of people as well then. Also, Guard feel free to state YOUR opinion not a diplomatic post. Preferably something impartial as opposed to partial.

[jaw4]

What are we debating? If I'm better at siege than ceasor or if noobs ruined the game?

[Caesar]

To avoid even MORE drama lets go with the latter of the options.

[Magyk]

I would just like to throw out an excerpt from a PM I received from Ceasar.

"Now I figure if I loose this incredibly severely I might have to quit siege under Ceasar and return under a different name. I might assume a different role, maybe a smart 16 year old instead of the role i play currently."

That isn't just odd phrasing. That's practically an admission.

[Caesar]

Not really just something I thought up to avoid the inevitable.

[jaw4]

Okay, well obviously noobs didn't ruin the game for other noobs, but trying to play pugs when there are only 2 good players on the server certainly ruined the fun for those players who had to carry their teams hard every game. There were some pugs with some solid players but a lot of them were just a bunch of c2s at the highest.

And I really have no room to talk about if ceasar is someone aliasing, but based on his lack of respect for older players like tensor and chew(I think that was him) I'd guess hes pretty new to siege.

[Magyk]

Okay, well obviously noobs didn't ruin the game for other noobs, but trying to play pugs when there are only 2 good players on the server certainly ruined the fun for those players who had to carry their teams hard every game. There were some pugs with some solid players but a lot of them were just a bunch of c2s at the highest.

We've been over this. You don't help improve the quality of the game, yet you bitch and scream and whine about games being bad. If you want better games, make better games or else shut up about it. Seriously. The self-proclaimed "good" players are the only ones who can stop that vicious circle, so either do so or let us have our fun.