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Re: Windows 7

Postby Laser on Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:39 pm

sometimes these threads feel like Facebook when people are online at the same time
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Helaku on Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:48 pm

@jerk
Yeah, I prepared and already compensated...Had to format XP recently so I left 225gb free HDD space for my data, and that disc is now Windows 7
Also, my PC is on the x86 version (32-bit) but it's running pretty nicely
@ pipe
MS put more effort in the child - fuckup - prevention this time so unless you know what you're doing, you can't really fuck up stuff as easy as in XP. ( even if it includes preventing angry kids from playing games* )
@ laser
You're right about the fb

Last note:
I upgraded to Win7 to test it and yews it for the non-gaming business if it keeps on working, so I kept my old XP installation for the gaming rounds ( which really aren't as often as they were before )
* That sentence so reminded me of myself in the earlier days :)

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I don't really know what I just wrote above, but I've got a good hunch about Win7
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Re: Windows 7

Postby j3rk on Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:07 pm

If it's not too late you should reinstall the x64 flavor. It's more stable and runs faster than the 32bit. 32bit isn't bad by any means, x64 is just better. I'm just sayin'.
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Laser on Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:06 pm

jerk explain to me what the difference is in idiot language, I have x64
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Helaku on Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:25 pm

I was never the hardware expert, but I think not any PC can install x64 or x86
It's determined by your processor...You can check your through XP's Device Manager and looking up processor details unless your My Computer properties doesn't show in General Tab...
I think my 32-bit processor wouldn't run win7 x-64 but it may be possible for a 64-bit processor to run a handicapped 32bit version...At least that's how I got it...I hope I got it right.
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Re: Windows 7

Postby j3rk on Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:36 pm

Well, let's see... In really basic and slightly inaccurate/over-simplified terms, imagine a 32 lane foot race track versus a 64 lane track. If 64 dudes were racing down a 32 lane track, they'd have to be 2 dudes deep and the dudes behind obviously will finish last. If those 64 dudes were racing on a 64 lane track, all of them will finish faster.

There's a lot more to it of course... Like 64bit OSes can yews more RAM, software written to take advantage of 64bit OSes perform faster than 32bit softwares, even though 32bit software like JKA still works fine.

But here's the deal breaker... As Helaku alluded to, it does depend on whether or not your CPU supports 64bit processing. If it doesn't, don't worry, Windows will tell you right away and won't let you install.

A 64bit CPU can install a x86 (32bit) OS (it's just dumb IMO), but an x86 CPU can not install a 64bit OS.
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Turky on Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:37 pm

The one drawback that x64 used to have is that there wasn't good driver support. But there is now...
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Helaku on Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:43 pm

j3rk wrote:A 64bit CPU can install a x86 (32bit) OS (it's just dumb IMO), but an x86 CPU can not install a 64bit OS.


That means I'm right, right?
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Maximus on Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:17 pm

j3rk wrote:Well, let's see... In really basic and slightly inaccurate/over-simplified terms, imagine a 32 lane foot race track versus a 64 lane track. If 64 dudes were racing down a 32 lane track, they'd have to be 2 dudes deep and the dudes behind obviously will finish last. If those 64 dudes were racing on a 64 lane track, all of them will finish faster.

There's a lot more to it of course... Like 64bit OSes can yews more RAM, software written to take advantage of 64bit OSes perform faster than 32bit softwares, even though 32bit software like JKA still works fine.

But here's the deal breaker... As Helaku alluded to, it does depend on whether or not your CPU supports 64bit processing. If it doesn't, don't worry, Windows will tell you right away and won't let you install.

A 64bit CPU can install a x86 (32bit) OS (it's just dumb IMO), but an x86 CPU can not install a 64bit OS.


64 = 2 * 32, leading some people to believe that 64 bit systems are twice as fast... under certain workloads they can be faster, but under most they're within 10% of the 32 bit system. The advantage is you get twice as much precision at the same clock rate, which can be useful mostly for mathematical and simulation programs. Early 64 bit games touted higher resolution textures and whatnot, but the overall experience was similar.

But yea, the biggest deal is more addressable RAM.
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Re: Windows 7

Postby Laser on Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:26 am

thank you, I am now ready to become a computer geek.
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