Trk Rant # 5998307210087

[Kerafym]

What a story, Mike.

[lorax]

Why would you express concern about spam while keeping mines in the game?

I thought about not having mines, but they really are somewhat necessary on any map that isn't really small like cargo to have back up defenses behind your defensive set up. Mines aren't even used as spam most of the time, whereas rockets and golans are almost always splash kills unless you manage to get a direct hit (which you can still do with other guns). When somebody is about to get the hangar on hoth you don't see everybody go demo to spam mines; everybody goes wookiee to spam rockets.

At least with golan they'll explode in a few seconds, and yet there's still time for players to avoid it.

Golan will explode no matter what you do, mines can be circumnavigated or taken out when the person wants. If the mines are just being laid, you can still run past if you're a ninja, but balls at your feet will explode and kill you every time. They may cause more damage if they are abused, but I don't think people will abuse them as much as golan because everybody knows that they shouldn't mine spam.

Also, it's a lot harder to spam golans when there's few lifts or narrow hallways/doorways (and no critical objectives for the golan to insta-explode on).

That's the problem. There are large areas between key points in the map, but once you get there there isn't a lot of space. I'm making a large map like korri with non-forceclasses... there are going to be a lot of lifts. And in order to counter-act somebody sitting at the top mine spamming the one large lift like on hoth, I've been building multiple small lifts close together. That way if they do spam, you can still split up and take them out.

If you can convince me that mines are useless and should be removed, I will, but until then I still think that they have more value than golans or rockets.

[tens0r]

custom maps suck.

[Kerafym]

People who complain about aspects that have been part of the core fundamentals of this game since inception make me laugh.

It's been like 9 years. Learn to deal with this shit.

[Turky]

yea trip mines are really fundamental in a star wars game...

[Max Rambone]

I like how trk doesn't consider rockets and golans in narrow passageways spam.

I also like how he uses a cropping of a screenie (that looks awfully GREEN) of me tripping tensor as some kind of de facto proof of his statement.

Since you're all about pictorial arguments, I'll drop you a little hint:

/sarcasm

Trk, I haven't said ANYTHING negative to you or about you in weeks...besides the 'hittin' the sauce' thing in the shoutbox.

....the whole 'touchy-feely' thing seemed to go out the window when laser went after magyk anyways.

That being said, you might be better at snowtrooper, heavy, and reborn boss (golan spam, rocket spam, and...props...wicked throw)

However, I'm WAY better than you at jan and I'm better at demo and lando.

(All considering we pretty much only PUG hoth.)

In the past year, you have spammed me waaaaaaaay more than I have spammed you.

Top Ten dudes that spam unprovoked in a PUG (without being spammed first for you slow ones...):

what_console
katy
mike
afro
kane
sonic
yo (rocket)
lorax
trk (rocket/golan)
jawa (rocket/golan/mines...when he thinks his team is shitty)

~archi

p.s. -- carefully placed mines are kinda the heart of siege, tbh......guess that's why they are considered OP over the whole of any and all maps.

[Laser]

laser went after magyk

heh

[Kerafym]

i probably spam more than any of them unless im playing 4srs.

[Max Rambone]

UR a LoL fag....u don't count.

Ya prick ya.

~archi

p.s. -- laser, magyk calling you out for your usual pugkilling is not really 'going after you.'

If you know you're done playing, why capt just for the fuck of it?

p.p.s. - Guard, dudes never pull their usual BS if you are there...dur.

[tens0r]

I also like how he uses a cropping of a screenie (that looks awfully GREEN) of me tripping tensor as some kind of de facto proof of his statement.

That's called a console my dude.