my two cents

[Caesar]

So I was required to watch tonights debate for Us gov class and write a 2-3min brief essay explaining who and why I would vote for.


My two cents~

Obama seemed a little bit more prepared this time around as he did not stuter as much nor blatantly ignore the questions being asked. I love how Obama and Romney kept interupting eachother. I'm not sure if they realize how childish that looks. Obama liked to, for some reason or another keep refering back to what he did for the middle class. Still not quite clear on what he did for the middle class..... Romney on the other hand at least had a large variety of topics to discuss. I must say Romney has more eloquence than Obama, however Obama did actually, from my perspective, win several arguements. It would be nice if Obama would realize that the debt has increased not decreased. I don't agree with either of their foreign policies. The tradegy in the midle east was a high point for Obama because, this once, he actually had facts to validate his arguement.

[Magyk]

Obama talks like he's running for the first time and has no record. "I want to..." Well why haven't you, bro?

[Ramshi]

Obama talks like he's running for the first time and has no record. "I want to..." Well why haven't you, bro?

Oh damn, son.

[Magyk]

"God I hate doing taxes. "Dependents" . . . hmm. 4 million illegal immigrants and 6 million people on welfare."

My friend's older sister's facebook status this afternoon. Priceless.

[Maximus]

Top Ten (make that twenty, I couldn't pick just ten) Reasons Not to Vote for Obama (in No Particular Order)

1. Voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act 4 times. America's first pro-infanticide president?

2. Told Mevedev he would “be more flexible” after the election, in regard to nuclear disarmament, but the principle certainly applies to more than that.

3. Did not keep his promise regarding transparency and dissociation with lobbyists. Has stonewalled access to all kinds of information; Fast & Furious etc.

4. Had prior knowledge of the danger to our personnel and property in Libya based on previous attacks, and if he didn't, he should have. The State Department declined requests for additional security, even though the ambassador feared for his life. Still to this day some sources blame an amateurish Youtube video trailer which at the time of the attack had 300 views, for “spontaneous” riots in front of US facilities in 20 mostly Muslim countries, some of which "just happened" to include mortars and RPGs. Weeks later all the administration will say is “the investigation is ongoing.” In the aftermath of the attack, went to Vegas. Went before the United Nations and spent his time apologizing for our freedom of speech.

5. Reckless disregard for national security in releasing the video about killing bin Laden, conveniently 2 days before the election. A number of former Special Forces personnel have referred to this as a breach of national security, compromising far too much about our methods and capabilities.

6. Casualty rates in Afghanistan are approximately 3 times higher under Obama than under Bush. Also 2/3 of the total money spent in Afghanistan has been spent under Obama.

7. The price of gas has doubled since Obama took office. Obama has not issued permits for fossil fuel extraction on US federal land; all increased domestic production has been on permits issued under Bush, or on private land.

8. Coal provides 42% of US electricity. Under difficult environmental rules set by the EPA, 100 of 500 coal plants have shut down. Another 200 are set to shut down before 2016. The price of electricity, at least in certain areas, will increase dramatically.

9. Appeared on Letterman. (Should be a reason on its own). Was either unable or unwilling to state the value of the $16T national debt, when prompted by Letterman. Stated that the national debt was “not a problem in the short term, but only in the long term, and medium term” (meaning he thinks he can hold off the worst consequences until after the election or after his second term).

10. Skips about half of his intelligence briefings, even though we have troops actively deployed in two foreign wars.

11. Gave $90B to “green energy” initiatives, the majority of which failed and the leadership of which just happened to be major Democratic donors.

12. Falsely claimed that an executive order would contain Hyde amendment-like language that would prevent federal funding of abortions under Obamacare, which does not fall under the existing Hyde amendments. This lie was the reason some Democratic swing votes in the house voted for PPACA, allowing it to pass. I do not know if such an EO was ever written, but if it was, it will not stop the federal funding of abortions as Obama indicated.

13. The issues with Obamacare alone are sufficient reason to remove the Democrats from power to get it repealed. The cost is projected to be 2-3x what we were told when it was being voted on. Numerous penalties to individuals and businesses are far higher than projections. Health insurers are telling the government they will not implement many of the provisions, because they would be forced out of business if they do. 30% of doctors say they are considering leaving the medical profession due to the bureaucracy, costs, and decreased income. The idea of “no exceptions” for the Catholic Church etc is a farce, since the Amish are exempt, as are some 2000 organizations, mostly Democratic unions and the like.

14. Has pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, forcing states to recognize same sex “marriages” performed in other states, and paving the way for recognition of same sex “marriage” at the federal level. As has already happened in numerous cases, this will result in widespread infringement on religious freedom, among other things.

15. Repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell, largely against the recommendations of military leadership.

16. Continues to repeat the lie that Romney will raise taxes by $5T. Numerous other studies have clarified the Tax Policy Center study that Obama cites as the basis for this number; the Princeton professor has gone on record saying that Obama is mischaracterizing his work.

17. Promised to halve the deficit; he doubled it.

18. Promised Social Security and Medicare reform. Has not even presented a proposal toward this goal.

19. Claimed the money from the bailout has been repaid. The same day, the CBO released a report saying the taxpayers are still out $24B.

20. Promised comprehensive immigration reform. The DREAM act is far from comprehensive and does nothing to secure our borders.

[Turquoise Dragon]

Top Ten (make that twenty, I couldn't pick just ten) Reasons Not to Vote for Obama (in No Particular Order)

*Text wall o' epicness*

Amen, Brother. Good to be on at least one forum at that isn't pushing an 'Obama = good' thread in my face when politics is brought up.

[Ramshi]

14. Has pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, forcing states to recognize same sex “marriages” performed in other states, and paving the way for recognition of same sex “marriage” at the federal level. As has already happened in numerous cases, this will result in widespread infringement on religious freedom, among other things.

I'm not pro-homosexuality, but that also infringes on human rights. One of the biggest debates in the world as of current. Btw, did you hear about the Russian gay milk? lol

[Magyk]

I never understood why gay people didn't start their own gay religion, and then get married on the basis of religious freedom. Loopholes ftw.

[CHEW]

Anyone against gay marriage is a moron.

[Magyk]

I'm neither for nor against it. I don't care if it is legalized, but I won't go out of my way to advocate for it either. I could take it or leave it as an issue. I CERTAINLY don't think that it should have as much weight as it does as an issue. There are 10000 more important things to discuss as important issues in this election.